[FOM] 508: Unique Undefinable Elements

Andrew Brooke-Taylor andrewbt at gmail.com
Tue Dec 11 02:04:50 EST 2012


Dear FOMers,

I just wanted to mention to readers that similarly, Greg Hjorth
constructed a model with a unique element which is not definable in
L_{\omega_1, \omega} (JSL 75 no. 1 (2010), pp 269-274.  Sorry, I'd
make it a link, but I only have hard copy access here).

Best wishes,
Andrew Brooke-Taylor

On 28 November 2012 05:29, Harvey Friedman <hmflogic at gmail.com> wrote:
> THIS RESEARCH WAS PARTIALLY SUPPORTED BY THE JOHN TEMPLETON FOUNDATION
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> THIS POSTING IS ENTIRELY SELF CONTAINED
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> UNIQUE UNDEFINABLE ELEMENTS
>
> We present a structure (in a finite relational type) with a unique
> undefinable element. Furthermore, the unique undefinable element is
> undefinable even if we use the quantifier "there exist infinitely
> many" and quantitative variants. We show that the structures can be
> taken to be a graph. We also prove that "there is a structure (in a
> finite relational type) with a unique second order undefinable
> element" is not provable in ZFC (assuming ZFC is consistent).
>
> 1. Introduction.
> 2. Cohen generic sets and forcing.
> 3. Cohen generic constructions.
> 4. Unique undefinable elements.
> 5. Interpretations into graphs.
> 6. Unique second order undefinable elements.
> 7. Dimension preservation.
>
> The manuscript is at
> http://www.math.osu.edu/~friedman.8/manuscripts.html #74, and has been
> submitted for publication.
>
> The unique undefinable element is called the God element. The work was
> motivated by theology, as discussed in the Introduction.
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> 450: Maximal Sets and Large Cardinals II  12/6/10  12:48PM
> 451: Rational Graphs and Large Cardinals I  12/18/10  10:56PM
> 452: Rational Graphs and Large Cardinals II  1/9/11  1:36AM
> 453: Rational Graphs and Large Cardinals III  1/20/11  2:33AM
> 454: Three Milestones in Incompleteness  2/7/11  12:05AM
> 455: The Quantifier "most"  2/22/11  4:47PM
> 456: The Quantifiers "majority/minority"  2/23/11  9:51AM
> 457: Maximal Cliques and Large Cardinals  5/3/11  3:40AM
> 458: Sequential Constructions for Large Cardinals  5/5/11  10:37AM
> 459: Greedy CLique Constructions in the Integers  5/8/11  1:18PM
> 460: Greedy Clique Constructions Simplified  5/8/11  7:39PM
> 461: Reflections on Vienna Meeting  5/12/11  10:41AM
> 462: Improvements/Pi01 Independence  5/14/11  11:53AM
> 463: Pi01 independence/comprehensive  5/21/11  11:31PM
> 464: Order Invariant Split Theorem  5/30/11  11:43AM
> 465: Patterns in Order Invariant Graphs  6/4/11  5:51PM
> 466: RETURN TO 463/Dominators  6/13/11  12:15AM
> 467: Comment on Minimal Dominators  6/14/11  11:58AM
> 468: Maximal Cliques/Incompleteness  7/26/11  4:11PM
> 469: Invariant Maximality/Incompleteness  11/13/11  11:47AM
> 470: Invariant Maximal Square Theorem  11/17/11  6:58PM
> 471: Shift Invariant Maximal Squares/Incompleteness  11/23/11  11:37PM
> 472. Shift Invariant Maximal Squares/Incompleteness  11/29/11  9:15PM
> 473: Invariant Maximal Powers/Incompleteness 1  12/7/11  5:13AMs
> 474: Invariant Maximal Squares  01/12/12  9:46AM
> 475: Invariant Functions and Incompleteness  1/16/12  5:57PM
> 476: Maximality, CHoice, and Incompleteness  1/23/12  11:52AM
> 477: TYPO  1/23/12  4:36PM
> 478: Maximality, Choice, and Incompleteness  2/2/12  5:45AM
> 479: Explicitly Pi01 Incompleteness  2/12/12  9:16AM
> 480: Order Equivalence and Incompleteness
> 481: Complementation and Incompleteness  2/15/12  8:40AM
> 482: Maximality, Choice, and Incompleteness 2  2/19/12 7:43AM
> 483: Invariance in Q[0,n]^k  2/19/12  7:34AM
> 484: Finite Choice and Incompleteness  2/20/12  6:37AM__
> 485: Large Large Cardinals  2/26/12  5:55AM
> 486: Naturalness Issues  3/14/12  2:07PM
> 487: Invariant Maximality/Naturalness  3/21/12  1:43AM
> 488: Invariant Maximality Program  3/24/12  12:28AM
> 489: Invariant Maximality Programs  3/24/12  2:31PM
> 490: Invariant Maximality Program 2  3/24/12  3:19PM
> 491: Formal Simplicity  3/25/12  11:50PM
> 492: Invariant Maximality/conjectures  3/31/12  7:31PM
> 493: Invariant Maximality/conjectures 2  3/31/12  7:32PM
> 494: Inv Max Templates/Z+up, upper Z+ equiv  4/5/12  4:17PM
> 495: Invariant Finite Choice  4/5/12  4:18PM
> 496: Invariant Finite Choice/restatement  4/8/12  2:18AM
> 497: Invariant Maximality Restated  5/2/12 2:49AM
> 498: Embedded Maximal Cliques 1  9/18/12  12:43AM
> 499. Embedded Maximal Cliques 2  9/19/12  2:50AM
> 500: Embedded Maximal Cliques 3  9/20/12  10:15PM
> 501: Embedded Maximal Cliques 4  9/23/12  2:16AM
> 502: Embedded Maximal Cliques 5  9/26/12  1:21AM
> 503: Proper Classes of Graphs  10/13/12  12:17PM
> 504. Embedded Maximal Cliques 6  10/14/12  12:49PM
> 505: Function Transfer Theory 10/21/12  2:15AM
> 506: Finite Embedded Weakly Maximal Cliques  10/23/12  12:53AM
> 507: Finite Embedded Dominators  11/6/12  6:40AM
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Dr Andrew Brooke-Taylor
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Kobe University


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